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Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

Everybody, consider this a playroom post and feel free to expound as to what you thought back in early 2020 and how your views changed, IF they changed.

I think there are plenty of people who rode the OG narrative all the way through and are still masking and getting jabs.

And then maybe tomorrow, we will explore the Tier Two (*alternative treatments*) narratives.

But let it fly. This is interesting.

R!CKYRANTS's avatar

Radiation illness.

Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

This remains the one vector to the hooomans that makes the most sense.

There are so many logical trap doors with the virus narrative ("85% asymptomatic")

Mel's avatar

The fact that they were putting up 5G towers without masking or social distancing around the clock only solidifies the logic of radiation poisoning. The cities were hit hardest. Mmmmmhmmmm. The most towers and condensed populations. Killing many birds with one “stone.” People in rural areas weren’t hit as hard. Now as I drive around I see towers in the middle of nowhere in fields and obscure places.

BP's avatar

Asymptomatic is the key for masking & quarantining healthy people

mary-lou's avatar

the term "asymptomatic" became truly popularised during the HIV/Aids scare in the 1980s and probably worked well enough to re-introduce it during Cov19. where it also helped to explain away any negative outcome from the endless circus acts disguised as PCR test.

L. McFarland's avatar

And is of course the absolute case limit for stupidity of the masses. The whole of science has known for centuries that we are awash in the very things that make us sick in some instances, but not in most. Bubonic plague? Yup, still here. So this concept of 'symptom-free' disease was all I needed to know that the vast majority of the worlds people were stupid as fucking rocks. And yeah, that pisses me off. WE are capable of Beethoven symphonies, and Michelangelo's David, and Gaudi's La Sagrada Familia.. hell, anything by Gaudi. And we squander it. We squander it on politics and superstitions, pettiness, cruelty and egoism and willful ignorance and technologies that will destroy the world unless there is a force of supernatural intervention.. I didnt realize I was living in story by Dante until 2020.

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veggie warrior's avatar

Seeker, birds were (and are) affected. Millions of birds have died from electromagnetic frequencies. There was a man, whose name I can't currently recall, who had a Substack or blog and reported on places where birds were just dropping from the sky near towers. He passed away about a year ago. Maybe someone here remembers him? Here's some info on military activities and the outcome on bird populations in Mexico: https://smombiegate.org/hundreds-of-thousands-if-not-millions-of-birds-died-during-2020-u-s-air-force-5g-exercise-new-mexico/

Michele's avatar

Yes I remember lots of videos of birds affected.

Though part of me now wonders...real? OR just like the people-twirling-just-prior-to-death videos....kinda psyoppy sus....

Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

WTF was up with the twirling videos?

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Michele's avatar

Yeah sometimes I feel like some of these wilder scenes are just more shiny-keys-look-over-here-while-we're-doing-X-over-there, and also-- like flat earth theory (imho)--a path to lead people down to discredit non-standard narratives ("conspiracies") completely. So I remember several of those bird scenes, and twirling scenes, but am sooo much more skeptical of any videos now, that I've like, down-ranked them in my head, as to their actual evidentiary potential. Like, shouldn't we keep seeing them? Or have ALL the flocks near ALL the towers died off already? Or have ALL the initial TWIRLING_INCUDEMENT ingredients in the jabby bioweapons or the targeted radiation or the actual virus released strategically, have THOSE ingredients stopped being used? I mean...some of these 'spectacles' of the devastation, just a big fat line of ???????? for me.

veggie warrior's avatar

I have no idea what you're talking about re. twirling videos?? But EMF radiation is real. The guy who was documenting bird and insect loss was Arthur Firstenberg. He passed away in recent years, but check out what's left of his substack: https://arthurfirstenberg.substack.com/p/where-have-all-the-insects-gone?

Also, essential reading Roman S. Shapoval. Do you spend time outdoors? If you do, you will notice the absence of birds and insect life, compared to 5-10 years ago. We are frying ourselves.

L. McFarland's avatar

Certainly likely from observation imo that the case limits are tested regularly and the responses noted for the future.

How many people for example have noted in public conversation the number of people in the C. Kirk video the bystanders who have no physiological reaction to the event witnessed? This is not possible under natural conditions. To witness a bloody assassination, even one you are pre-conditioned for, will create a limbic response before youre able to mask it with intention. Even if its a micro response. Like micro-expressions, the body will respond quicker than we are consciously able to control without training. So the fuckery on that one was massive, and I believe it was a training exercise, for the intel, AI, social conditioning and then some.. future narrative build.

This excrement is always functioning on multiple levels which is why the public (those aware) can never quite get their full minds around it all..

PERSISTENT OBJECTOR to new IHR's avatar

Is the bird flu where supposedly it causes wild birds to fall from the sky, also a cover for radiation sickness?

There have been periods in which I saw a dead bird near the motorway every 5 minutes of drive.

J Shannon's avatar

If you assume BF is a complete fraud, you will not be wrong.

Kieran Jaegar's avatar

Resonant frequencies, plus some amount of targeting (still up in the air as to the area-of-effect).

"Little did they know that wifi had been able to track their bodies, down to respiration and heart rate, through walls all this time..."

Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

And RFK, Jr. wants everyone to be using wearables.

Same RFK, Jr. who was on CHD discussing EXACTLY WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BIOLOGICAL SURVEILLANCE.

J Shannon's avatar

An extremely bad sign! Good advice is to avoid all wearables completely and to avoid all injections unless a life-threatening emergency or uncontrollable pain present.

Michele's avatar

Animals don't carry cellphones

Kieran Jaegar's avatar

Oh don't worry, we're getting there too.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bQ1sX6CCDRY

Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

deleted prior comment as I may have my United Healthcare orgs mixed up.

Michele's avatar

Yeah I hate that. Such hubris to think there is no effect.

R!CKYRANTS's avatar

Who says it didn’t?

L. McFarland's avatar

Smaller surface area means lower total absorption. They are also much shorter lived and have lower heavy metal saturation which is part of the current damage profile. Although horses and cows near towers fair very badly which is covered by shorter life spans and chemical interventions. Also, some animals like cats do well with both radiation and the acidity that results. Read Invisible Rainbow to grasp the depth of the problem.

xkry's avatar

Nobody's pets had anything happen. Your dog had no idea what was going on, neither did your neighbors dog, etc. And they were 100% perfectly fine. Had everyone confined their dogs to an isolation chamber while forcing them to suddenly don "dog masks" over their mouths and nose and be "quarantined" from even seeing fellow family members (because they tested positive - *AFTER* a Q-tip is rammed 5 inches up their nose ....)

... pretty sure those dogs would have gotten sick.

L. McFarland's avatar

Also helps that not knowing meant not fearing. We are herd animals in our fears..terrible business for the immune system.

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xkry's avatar

Reading how COVID affects deer and wild animals and then simultaneously being told many US suburban and even urban areas have a massive deer overpopulation problem and coyote problems necessitating culling operations is just one of the many many ridiculous and infuriating contradictions of COVID times.

MoodyP's avatar

First and foremost, appreciation for your tireless efforts to peel back the layers. The deception and revisionist history usually takes a few decades. This time it began after just a couple years. At most.

IDK what happened. I do know that my wife became deathly ill and ended up in the hospital for a few days in December 2021, while I was perfectly fine despite being exposed to the same conditions as her 24/7.

At the time we were living on our small sailboat, travelling, with very limited exposure to other people, outside 12 hours a day, and breathing each others air the other 12. So why and how did she get sick and I did not. IDK.

I am grateful everyday that we were in a small southern town at the time, with a very small community hospital, that had no vents, a staff of locals who actually cared, and that a large percentage of the doctors and other staff members were black and not exactly buying in to what was being sold by the govt and the media. Blessings to them all.

My wife eventually ‘recovered’ although she has never been quite the same and in 2023 was Dx with early stage Parkinson’s.

Coincidence? Maybe. Age? Maybe. Genetics? Maybe. IDK. And I can’t figure it out. Which drives me nuts, but I’ve always been close to that edge anyway,

Very early on, maybe Feb 2020 I knew something wasn’t making sense. My 93 year old father sent me an email and asked me what my thoughts were on the “China” virus (remember that whole DEI debacle?). My response to him was “IDK but in China it’s the year of the rat, and I smell one”.

Hard to believe it’s been 6 years.

Tom Tunes's avatar

Thanks for your account Moody! Am I correct in thinking that neither you nor your wife was ever vaxxed?

I think your story proves once again how little is actually known about how the human organism actually works.

MoodyP's avatar

Thanks. Correct on the vax. It will forever and always remain a mystery.

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JimB's avatar

Also food, medicines and drink should be considered, multiple vectors, making sources more difficult to detect and trace.

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Did I answer this for you. I wrote an answer but I don’t see it in the string.

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Interesting question.

2-iPhones XR

1-Apple iPad 2nd generation

1-MacBook (new at the time)

1-hardwired VHF Matine Radio

2-Handheld VHF Marine Radio

2-Raymarine Chart plotters w/GPS, AIS and radar (no WiFi or Bluetooth)

1-Sirius Weather receiver and antenna

1-AIS receiver and antenna

1-Radar Array

2-Handheld GPS (turned off)

1-406mhz EPIRB (turned off)

2-406/220mhz EPIRB/PLB combo

1-Iridium Satellite Phone (turned off, emergency backup)

In addition, we have a very old Apple 802.11 AP that we use occasionally to connect to a printer. Both are off 95% of the time.

When the boat is moving all the Nav gear is usually on and we are outside most of the time. On longer passages we have a watch system so it’s one up, one down.

At anchor, everything is turned off unless we are monitoring a weather system. We set an anchor watch with an app on a phone.

In a marina (which is where we were when she got sick) everything is off except computer and phones. Plugged into shore power and using marina WiFi.

Getting blasted with RF in marinas and some EMF out on the water.

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MoodyP's avatar

Thank you!

Ava Grandley's avatar

Btw, no birds for months here. We used to have doves all the time. May seem off the subject, but they may know something we don't

Kieran Jaegar's avatar

Keep an eye on them. Stretch theory is they're covering up an incoming magnetic pole shift; birds and wildlife would likely sense it and react before we would.

Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

May I ask who is the most prominent thought leader on magnetic pole shift theories?

Kieran Jaegar's avatar

No clue on that one; I came into the theory via light exposure to the idea, plus research on my own (trying to piece together the past relationships between the major religions) because nearly every ancient text that spawned a modern-day religion warns of a massive threat in the end-times, invariably coming from the north.

Historians usually try to explain it with various countries' invasions and whatnot, but given other patterns like the Great Pyramid was built to align with the then-magnetic north (which only makes sense to track drift over time), my hackles are up that it might be incoming and they're covering the effects with "climate change."

(As an aside, GPT told me if the drift hits 70km/year, some kind of runaway chain reaction becomes inevitable. The North Pole is currently drifting 55km/year.

Which gets us into the psyop of Santa Claus and the North Pole Workshop being used to mentally anchor the North Pole to a hardlocked physical location in the collective consciousness, but that's a longer story 😂)

Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

Man I love the way you creatively approach puzzles. 🧩🥇

Andy Boddington's avatar

Ben Davidson, Doug Voigt RIP

Michele's avatar

Ben Davidson of Suspicious Observers and Stefan Burns (sp?) are pretty out in front of this

Andy Boddington's avatar

Ben Davidson I reckon. Doug Voigt RIP , Hapgood was an original.

Ava Grandley's avatar

I believe it was all a lie

Still is. It s h e ll because so many people i love believe it and are still being poisoned or worse. Praying for us all. 🙏 I hate this

Andrew Brewer's avatar

Corona viruses were around before the plandemic. We know the testing method used, the PCR test, could detect anything with enough cycling. 97% false positives shows exactly what they were doing. Get the false positives, whether there were symptoms or not, and the fear of the plandemic spreads. End up in the hospitals and the CDC protocols kicked in. Not only was this all about the Jabs, but they even used lockdowns and destroyed small businesses in the hundred of thousands. They even spread the Jabs into the infant vax schedule. Women were having like an 87% miss carriage rate. The estimate is that 10% of the jabs carried enough toxins to incapacitate the recipients. The Medical Establishment was (and is) into it up to their necks. The masking, the "social" distancing, and the jabs. The Courts were useless. Doctors, nurses, and hospitals were payed off big time to produce Covid deaths. Once patients got on the ventilators, which they told us were critical to save lives, it was a death sentence. Remdesivir caused kidney damage, and the lungs filled up with fluid. Look they said, another respiratory death from Covid.

But the old people need those shots, right, to protect them from Covid. Even those not at risk. Even if you want to keep your job. The actual risk of dying from Covid was like 0.2 percent. No flu data was presented at all. Who will ever trust a doctor again ? The VA is still offering Covid "vaxxes". In Alaska the Gov't was holding lotteries to get teens to get the shot. Some villages would not let the non-vaxxed into their stores. The abomination of the masks were everywhere. Playgrounds had signs up to wear masks. Even Bicycling Magazine showed bike riders masked up. By that point it didn't even matter if there was a Sars Co-V2 virus or not. With the media on board, the Gov't, the Hospitals, and Schools all on-board, it was a perfect psy-op of destruction. When the military was forced to get the "vax" or get out, I knew the takeover was complete. Ever hear of the Gulf War syndrome in the Iraq war? It wasn't from toxins in the air, it was from injections given to the troops, supposedly to protect them. mRNA isn't even necessary to make your life hell. So, life goes on. And they still want to kill us, one way or another. Most people now realize they got played, but there have been no repercussions. The masks could come out again in an instant, even if they know they are useless. Nothing says plandemic like the masks, and you know they love to spread that fear...

Dr. Flurm Googlybean's avatar

I dusted off my SARS 1 case count spreadsheet, made a copy and started dutifully recording the CDC numbers, fitting exponential growth curves. China was weird, but they also lied in SARs1. And then all the masks disappeared in every store.

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A construct at the time. Just like every other co-ordinated health scare campaign that preceded it. Knew the moment it hit that it was BS. Reinforced by ‘news’ about 92 year olds dying and the constant infection and death poll updates. Knew it would be about vaccination day 1. Had no idea it would get as crazy as it did in Australia. Can’t believe that people turned into cold era spies for govt and wanted death in all deniers. Saw firsthand how many would have been complicit and how easily the people are dividdd and conquered through ignorance, lack of critical thinking, fear and general herd behaviour. Have my thoughts changed or softened? No. Could there have been more to it? Perhaps - radio frequency, p2p m2m networks, maybe some gain of function shenanigans. But mostly I think it is ‘how to lie using statistics’. Therefore my opinion hasn’t changed since day 1 when the first talk of the virus emerged, and govts globally abandoned their plans and turned authoritarian.

Guy Duperreault's avatar

more accurately for me, i knew it was a scam from first announcement and thought it was about evacuating government coffers to enrich pharma. the awareness of the military came later.

Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

I love these threads and miss how fun this joint used to be.

May I probe? Just one question at a time.

Your initial impression was that the government wanted to enrich Big Pharm?

Guy Duperreault's avatar

hola sage. those were indeed exciting times, the discovery ever deepening of the reality of a necromonger class actively looking to kill the planet and we humans on it. amazing times.

yes, i knew that 'flu' vaccines were a scam and so this one was also a scam. the manufactured panic was obvious. masks? wow! before that, in 2016 i had turned off all tv, radio, newspapers, magazines, social media. in that time i focused only on yoga, meditation, psychology and diet. a big healing effort for me. and so i was confident that even if the 'flu' was 'bad', i was healthy enough to survive it, likely with ease. no fear.

quick background recap on my equanimity in the face of the manufactured panic:

in the late 90s i did a deep dive into the lying malevolence of the media. before that the false nature of medicine, although only at a superficial level at that time — but deep enough to know it was about money not health. in the early 00s i wrote and taught two anti-economic courses, economics debunked and banks skanks. so while not a full on 'conspiratorialist' i was aware enough of the scammery of 'everything' to know that the flu was a con.

of course, after i did the deep dive in 2021, omg! it took me about 2 months of research to see, understand and fully accept that the effort was death. the killing of people. and a few months after that i left canada.

Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

Do you think that *some* people were made very ill with a different vector of illness of any variety?

No wrong answers!

Guy Duperreault's avatar

yes. almost certainly yes.

a part of creating the panic was 'salting the mine' with something some things. certainly venoms of various kinds, combinations and doses.

i also think, now, that their plan was that their poison would actually kill enough people to collapse the cities. the 15 minute city wasn't just a 2ndary plan, it was part of the convid. like all 'mba-style' plans, it didn't work as planned, though. they are still underestimating how amazing and powerful and resilient this human body is! they give infants to teens 74(?) injections, and few enough die for those deaths to be successfully hidden with gaslighting and corrupt medical and media systems.

with the explosion of social media, also unplanned for, enough information is getting through the gatekeepers that their narrative control is wobbly now.

it will be interesting to see how their next planned attack works out - what it is and how they will promote it. they are on much shakier ground, now. and likely they are deluding themselves that all is good. hmmmm. big mess coming up. not sure how big it will be. their plan will almost certainly fail. amazingly interesting times.

Tom Tunes's avatar

It’s interesting how different you and I see the opening salvo in this war of us. Although we can’t know for sure, my own feeling is that with the initial military issue shots they planned to kill a few, just not so many as they did, thereby alarming the sheep that something was amiss. I think if they wanted to empty the cities they could easily have done that by poisoning the water or the air, or perhaps a spectrum weapon we know nothing about.

Guy Duperreault's avatar

hola, tom.

yes, this is a perfectly reasonable argument and i have no *logical* argument against it. this is where, possibly, things like the need to reveal the method combined with 'satanic' methods may play a part to distinguish our arguments.

i think that like mbas they overestimated their intelligence, prowess, sneakiness and the broad effectiveness of their propaganda. they underestimated the resilience of the human animal and denied the possibility that people 'going along' often do so not because they are completely brainwashed, just that it is easier for them than fighting the rigged system. that passivity changed when the rigged system stepped up with a mass killing event. so... [shrug]. you may well be correct. lol! and will we find what is true? [headshake] ah well.

there has been an awakening with action. that is the important thing.

we are living the bhagavad-gita wedded to the great apocalypse! all the best with what is changing. everything changes! with peace, respect, love and equanimous enthusiasm.

🙏❤️🧘‍♂️🙌☯️🙌🧘‍♂️❤️🙏

Arne Anderson's avatar

It’s all about “gain of function “ !!

And why did the Flu disappear when “Kovid” appeared ??

Heather B's avatar

Since I remembered the Zika scary virus and how un-deadly it turned out to be I was sure they were just scaremongering with another version of Flu, whatever it is...and I wasn't afraid of it in the least.

Vigilant Amalek Snow Leopard's avatar

You and I have discussed this quite a bit.

Seems to me that CONTAGION is the real root scientific dilemma, even rooter than whether alleged pathogens identified as "viruses" exist.

The way this has trickled down is that virus=contagion and "bad" and if nothing bad happens then it is "asymptomatic" or "mild".

Unfalsifiable model with trap doors.

They have to do a trick and isolate it a cell culture and then say trust us, bro, this is the little bad boy that is causing all the people to both fall down and get Kovid Toe.

Heather B's avatar

Yes and I had already deduced that there can't really be a world wide pandemic since pathogens mutate...which is one reason why flu shots don't work so...the whole thing was ridiculous from the start in my mind. I had not tracked the government bs dod contracts etc until much later. But as soon as they started talking about a vaccine for the alleged virus, I knew that was the reason for the scaremongering. Pretty early in 2020 IIRC.

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At one point a very long time ago I got my flu shot sporadically, thinking I didn’t want to get sick and miss some work and income. Eventually I just decided they were useless (but never thought they might actually be harmful) and stopped using them. When the C19 op was rolled out I watched the spectacle, wondering what the fuck was going on. When the cruise ship and Navy ship data became available and as best I could tell this was ILI. Maybe a bad one, but ILI nevertheless. I relaxed, thinking it would blow over, until I realized they weren’t kidding with the vaxx and intended to vaxx everybody. Then it was obvious. That would have been about April, 2020. I became extremely angry that the monsters had such control that they could openly plan to commit a mass murder in front of us and that they would be assisted by the bleating sheep. Almost six long years now, and even now, with people I know who are actively resisting Newsom’s chicanery in Commifornia, they don’t fully understand or agree that the shots were poison. So what about the illness? I agree with much that has already been written here. I still think the virus paradigm is the best fit for many illnesses, but readily admit ICBW. C19 virus: to my mind most likely an ILI, either natural or produced for this year. The “virus” mortality was almost all in hospital and likely a combination of death treatments including remdesivir and unnecessary vents, dehydration, starvation, psychological abuse, and so on. Later, once the vaxxes rolled out, it was most likely ovewhelmingly vaxx deaths relabeled as C19.

It’s funny, but in some ways I feel stronger and more sure of myself vis a vis the monsters than ever before. At least now I have zero illusions of what they are capable of and plan to do as far as we are concerned. I’m preparing as best I can and I know they have superior fire power and numbers, for the time being. Time will tell how successful they will be.

Kieran Jaegar's avatar

Here's my contribution/theory. Seemed like the 5G towers directly causing it were a bit too obvious for a power structure that likes their camps/info tiers so much.

But, perhaps the towers gave them a different critical piece of the puzzle. My gut says "location."

Couple location with this (and my drive-away-from-Covid-symptoms experience):

https://chatgpt.com/share/692d27ca-4984-800a-ae25-632945ccd32c

...and I think Humanity's cookin'.

--🔑

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Excellent impetus for a "resonant" follow-up~

https://chatgpt.com/share/692d5a6d-f778-800a-b1b0-642a1282ea14

Comin' in hot~ ❤️‍🔥

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Hey, I'll try anything once (and then a few more times to make sure they weren't fucking with me 😂)~ Very curious to hear anything you might glean pattern/data-wise with the box, if you find the time and inclination ❤️‍🔥🙏

This beast goes down, one way or another.

BP's avatar

I do not believe a dangerous new coronavirus spread the world in 2020. I voted chimichangas.

I thought wth is going on.

But I didn't know if a deadly "virus" could be unleashed from a lab.

I didn't know tbh. I was definitely questioning things.

Trump shut down travel. Tom Hanks & his wife announced that they had "covid" & quarantined themselves in Australia or some damn thing. Nancy Pelosi was urging people to come to San Francisco to counter Trump & then the lockdown .. .the15 days to slow the spread, morphed into my grand kid doing remote kindergarten thru a tablet for the school year. The prisons were releasing felons over a new "coronavirus". Essential jobs only could work. The riots.

And during 2020 two grandbabies were born in locked down hospitals which also pinged my bullshit antenna.

But, I was in shock mostly.

And, during 2020 I didn't know anyone that got sick with "covid". I felt like kids & young were safe but had some anxiety about my husband - his age & he's asthmatic.

L. McFarland's avatar

Chimichangas! For the win!!!

Stateless3's avatar

I knew what was going on straight away because I had followed Stefan Lanka since 2010, as well as his measles process in 2015, where he demonstrated in the German Supreme Court that the Measles virus has never been shown to exist.

The court ruled in his favour.

Lanka offered a reward of 100,000 euros to the first person to prove the Measles virus exists. No one ever took him up on it.

Lanka put out a YouTube video explaining how Virology is based on the cargo cult science of Genetics.

Just like the double-helical DNA strand, the nuclear atom, and Einstein's theories of Relativity, there are inventions of the wizards. Getting billions to believe in these fake constructs enables them to terrorise us with plagues and to terrorise us with annihilation.

These ideas were worked out long before.

We are dealing with extremely ingenious and deceptive monsters.

MoodyP's avatar

Interesting question.

2-iPhones XR

1-Apple iPad 2nd generation

1-MacBook (new at the time)

1-hardwired VHF Matine Radio

2-Handheld VHF Marine Radio

2-Raymarine Chart plotters w/GPS, AIS and radar (no WiFi or Bluetooth)

1-Sirius Weather receiver and antenna

1-AIS receiver and antenna

1-Radar Array

2-Handheld GPS (turned off)

1-406mhz EPIRB (turned off)

2-406/220mhz EPIRB/PLB combo

1-Iridium Satellite Phone (turned off, emergency backup)

In addition, we have a very old Apple 802.11 AP that we use occasionally to connect to a printer. Both are off 95% of the time.

When the boat is moving all the Nav gear is usually on and we are outside most of the time. On longer passages we have a watch system so it’s one up, one down.

At anchor, everything is turned off unless we are monitoring a weather system. We set an anchor watch with an app on a phone.

In a marina (which is where we were when she got sick) everything is off except computer and phones. Plugged into shore power and using marina WiFi.

Getting blasted with RF in marinas and some EMF out on the water.

L. McFarland's avatar

I remember one night at the Berkeley marina in CA.. Im sensitive anyway, but I had to drive away in the camper in the middle of the night or I was going to die. I have never experienced anything as bad as whatever had been installed in that marina. Women are also more susceptible than men in general, though I cant remember why.. something about myelin sheathing if I remember. Dr. D Klinghardt has been an absolute lifesaver for me and many parents with autistic kids who are vulnerable for this reason too..

MoodyP's avatar

Interesting. The issue with marinas is that RF gets soaked up by the water, and all the fiberglass. Plus the boats, masts, and docks all block and degrade the RF. So to combat that, marinas will install a lot more access points and repeaters than would be required in say a park, use 180 degree panel antennas around the perimeter, and omnis on poles and just blow RF everywhere at max power. Same issue in RV parks.

At our ‘home port’ marina in MI there is a repeater 10 feet from our dock and when we are inside the boat sometimes we can’t get a strong enough signal to connect. Our boat is old so the hull is solid fiberglass and the deck is cored. The signal won’t penetrate.

You were probably getting an RF bath!