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Which Came First, the Cult or the Egg? Or the Chicken or the Zealotry? Or...something.

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Which Came First, the Cult or the Egg? Or the Chicken or the Zealotry? Or...something.

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Which Came First, the Cult or the Egg? Or the Chicken or the Zealotry? Or...something.

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*editor’s note: Post is way too long for email.

Here is Topol.

It’s October 16, 2022.

Eric Topol still has this up as his pinned tweet, from November 28, 2020:

Still going strong!

“Medical Research’s greatest achievement!”

I do not believe that Eric Topol will ever acknowledge the damage and needlessness of the injections.

I think Eric Topol is all in for life.

Ride or die.

Does he actually believe this still?

I do not think so, actually.

I think Eric Topol is a very calculating and amoral person. Not even immoral. Amoral.

I don’t think he’s a True Believer.

I don’t think Topol is an actual Covidian.

But a calculating liar.


This is Doug.

Doug dead.

Was Doug already a Covidian here as he postures?

I don’t know. Kinda don’t think so.

I discuss this premise with my homie MAA:

Writes Sage’s Newsletter3 hr ago

MAA, I think you can see some of the early Psy Oppery going on here.

They locked themselves in.

I remember this sense listening to a doctor on a podcast who had gotten jabbed early. (health care workers were targeted.)

You could hear the false bravado.

It's like they joined a cult and there would be no take backs.

Writes Sage’s Newsletter59 min ago

Why not just say: "I don't know for sure, but this seems like the best decision with what I know." ?


Writes Margaret Anna Alice Through the…58 min ago

Excellent point, Sage, but that would take some degree of humility and reason, and the cult buy-in relies on zealous faith in the Covidian credo.


Writes Sage’s Newsletter56 min ago

Was it already a cult by then?

The part that I don't get is was the zealous faith the chicken or the egg?

I think the zealous faith is a result of the decision, not the cause of the decision!

Thus the Psy Op exp.

Something happened with THIS decision that was like forging LOYALTY.

That did not exist prior. Instant cult.

Make sense?


Writes Margaret Anna Alice Through the…34 min ago

Ah, that is the question, is it not.

I believe the zealous faith

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is the product of a highly sophisticated messaging campaign

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crafted by behavioral psychologists (https://smile.amazon.com/State-Fear-government-weaponised-Covid-19-ebook/dp/B08ZSYN14J/) and then globally disseminated by propagandists

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and reinforced by colluders

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using well-known psychological manipulation techniques

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to induce menticide

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so people would willingly submit to one-world totalitarianism

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They make the decision to get injected because of their zealous faith in The $cience™, and once they are invested in that irrevocable way, they double down to protect their psyches from their gut instinct that they have been duped into self-annihilating through their pride, ego, and ignorance.


Writes Sage’s Newsletter32 min ago

So we have a distinction in theory!

(Which to me is exciting!)

So in MAA view:

1. Op

2. Zealotry

3. Jab

4. Cement

In SH View:

1. Op

2. Jab

3. Zealotry

I don't think the Zealotry was in place before the jab.

"Act your way into thinking"

as opposed to:

"Think (or be led like a compliant sheep) your way into acting"


Writes Margaret Anna Alice Through the…22 min ago

Exciting, indeed!

Your theory would be plausible—save for the fact that the zealous faith was on exuberant display long before the injection was unleashed. Masking cultists were operating as early as March 2020.

Now, if you amend your theory so #2 is not solely the jab but any act of compliance with Covidian cult catechisms, that could be argued, but I observed plenty of people who initially participated in masking as a precaution but who did not succumb to mass hysteria, so I don’t think the act of participation alone is sufficient to induce the zealous faith—it merely strengthens the faith that had already been instilled through propaganda.


Writes Sage’s Newsletter9 min ago

I find your argument very persuasive.

So we have two general patterns of explanation to work with.

MAA:

1. Covidian=masking enthusiasm, et. al.

2. Masking does not necessarily = Covidian

(A square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a square.)

I largely agree with this, but do not find it wholly explanatory.

And the counter point, expanded (mine):

1. Covidian =Covidian

Separate binary issue. Related, sure. This is the person that is all in on tribe. Probably a rabid masker, Twitter warrior. Pretty direct overlay.

2. Masker, afraid, maybe, cautious.

3. Getting injected ( a far more serious decision than wearing a mask) enhances Covidianism which may NOT have existed prior, despite the Psy Op.

So to borrow from Desmet:

30% all in. Off the cliff.

20% (my deviation from Desmet) research based. Red Pilled on data.

50% negotiable.

In this 50%, nudging to get injection IMMEDIATELY pushes one hard into the cult.

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So for the MAA metric to be true, Our Dead Pal Doug should have been a Covidian already, and rabid on masks and so forth?

Or were there Cautious Injection getters who immediately had regrets and flipped? (I have some of these in my readers.)


Writes Margaret Anna Alice Through the…8 min ago

I think you’ve outlined the patterns succinctly.

Your #3 is worth probing. While Covidians giddily lined up for their injection sacrament, others were coerced into this decision. If your theory holds true, those in the latter category would have been converted into Covidians by the act of injection itself.

That may be the case for a small percentage, but in my experience, many of those who felt coerced resented being put in that position and strongly regretted complying, especially if they experienced side effects.

I don’t know Dead Pal Doug, but judging from the hubris exhibited in his tweet, he was almost certainly a Covidian prior to injection.


Writes Sage’s Newsletterjust now

My theory is not all encompassing. it's more like a template.

I think that the act of injection is a giant player more than even the OP.

It's buy in.

But not complete buy in.

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I love MAA. She’s probably more right, I love that feeling of having my mind changed, too.

We’ve had a few good discussions like this!

I know that being human, I need sharp people to bounce ideas off of and explore the room!

Thus, the poll. (I think I’m about to get crushed here.)


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